the party needs to get rid of the RINOs and stop trying to out lib the "RATS".
Pandering to illegal aliens and trying to cram amnesty down Americas' throat has cost them millions of conservative votes.
WC,...take your meds. |
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Rep. Bachmann:
I believe that you are saying that the GOP needs to move back to its roots. To do that, it must be the party of fiscal responsibility, the party that upholds the ideals advanced in the constitution, and the party that promotes individual liberty over government interventionism. This will be a tough task, given that a program of democratic socialism is on the horizon. This is a program that will promote government interventionism both socially and economically. In doing so, it will subordinate the rights of the individual to the will of the State. It will misallocate factors of production, stifle entrepreneurship, and further debase the currency. It may even lead us in the direction of a centralized world bank, that will negotiate all trade agreements, enforce all tariffs between nations, and force the use of a single currency. That is why I support Dr. Paul and all members of his Freedom Pac such as yourself. Somehow, this country needs to move once again in the direction of a free-market economy instead of moving further in the direction of a socialist welfare state. The socialist welfare state has already failed us once. We don't need a repeat performance. |
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Rep Bachmann,I agree,
The GOP has to restore,
its Conservative brand and get back to basic Conservative Christian roots. |
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I do agree with you on keeping relgion out of politics. But will YOU keep your word on it? I have watched you dog the LDS church over and over and over for your own glee.
Religion has nothing to do with Politics. Romney was the MOST QUALIFIED and the MOST FEARED by the DNC. Howard Dean said just after Romney suspended his second place win in the primary's that "Romney is the one we feard the most." He also said he was now breathing a sigh of relief, as McCain was an easy win. He was right. We lost BIG. Now, get the party straight, deep six the bigots and move on. |
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I'm more than mildly amused at the posts of White Salamander. Of particular amusement is his assertion regarding the competency of the "GOP brand" as relates to Iraq and Katrina. In my opinion, WS needs to quit watching the Lame Stream Media and thinking what they tell him to think. The tragedy of Katrina lies in the door of that idiot mayor of New Orleans and can be kicked into the living room of the equally inept Governor. It was only after those two DEMOCRATES totally abdicated their positions and otherwise botched their jobs did it fall to the federal govt. to clean up the disaster made even worse by DEMOCRAT incompetency.
The democrats, with the willing help of the LSM, did what they usually do when they make a mess...blame it on somebody else. For further examples, look what their doing now regarding the bank bailouts and the UAW bailouts. And people like WS continue to drink the Kool-Aid pouring out of their TVs. Never confuse "the news" with the truth.
Finally...you don't defeat the liberals by becoming liberal! Ask McCane. |
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I say DIVORCE the abusive Rocky Feeler, Robber Baron, Establishment Party Machine Bosses (EMPBs) of the Gilt Bird Cabin Conservative Free GOP and let them rot on the ash heap of history.
To Hell with the Political Ruling Class inside the Beltloop, don't give a damn which party they SAY they represent.
Way past time to form a New American Conservative Party (NACP).
Get Limbaugh to host it at his house, invite Coulter, Hannity, Ingram, Mark Levin (sp?), Dick Morris, let them each choose a couple more. NOBODY who claims to be a "moderate" or a "centerist" or "independent"--I'd exclude Oh?Really? for that reason, and maybe Beck. Get the thing up and running by June.
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... we already have plenty of loser 3rd parties, we don't need another one ...
i'd rather take michelle's path and refine the party away from the handful of things it does badly and conecentrate on the large number of things it does well ... |
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I live in Illinois, the only GOP candidates I've supported since Ryan are reputable candidates whose voting records I've confirmed. Illinois now has zero state wide office holders for a good reason. Our GOP leadership in Illinois has zero credibility. Thus zero votes from this household.
Same for our national leadership.Even two Fox RINO's commentators tonight said that Obama's presumed policies wouldn't differ from that much from Bush - or likely McCain's if he had won.
If the national GOP doesn't campaign on their basic beliefs, I am not going to vote lib-lite just because they have an R behind their name.
If Illinois is fortunate enough to have an election to choose Obama's successor, and the state bosses try to foist another lib-lite candidate on us - zero votes again. |
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In my last sentence I should have added - "the state bosses try to foist another lib-lite or good old boy candidate on us." |
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abandon the Republican party. The Republicans learned no lessons after Hoover. The learned no lessons after Nixon. Reagan changed nothing. He merely lowered tax rates, temporarily. They'll learn nothing after Bush. That is because the majority of them are, in fact, liberals who go by the euphemism moderate. We have a liberal culture, so no wonder. |
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my2centsplus wrote:
"Romney was the MOST QUALIFIED and the MOST FEARED by the DNC. Howard Dean said just after Romney suspended his second place win in the primary's that "Romney is the one we feard the most." He also said he was now breathing a sigh of relief, as McCain was an easy win. He was right. We lost BIG."
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"Common sense almost dictates that "the candidate Republicans should be clamoring for is the one liberals are most feverishly denouncing. That is Mitt Romney by a landslide." - Ann Coulter
"I'd Pick Romney as McCain's Running Mate." - Karl Rove
Above quotes from Marie Jon's excellent article:
McCain and Romney, now that's the ticket
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/jon/080820
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My hope is that the one thing the GOP learned is that they will never be successful by trying to out left the left. Liberalism does not work, whether championed by the Democrats or by the Republicans. The current GOP has proven they are no more fiscally responsible than are the Democrats.
That must change in order for the GOP ro regain the trust of the American people. I am a conservative, but I am not a Republican. The Republican party needs to return to the conservative values they talk about, but far too infrequently actually fight for. |
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It's not just out lefting the left. It is making sure the FAR RIGHT BIGOTRY stops. This tent used to be big enough for a lot of differing views. This election proved otherwise. We lost the Hispanic vote. We lost the Black votes. We lost a lot of conservatives that are not far right conservatives. One in Five CONSERVATIVES did not vote for this ticket. One in FIVE. That's huge. We shot ourselves in the foot, and only ourselves to blame.
My advise for next election: If a person has already been on the ticket as the GOP nominee and veep nominee, your over. Done. Move on and pick someone else. |
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Spoken like a true conservative. Keep up the great work! |
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I agree with you, except for Morris.
Morris isn't a real conservative in my book.
I am afraid that the Republican brand has been permanently damaged. It may very well be time to start something new, from the conservative grass roots up. |
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While the current GOP needs some major re-tooling, I think it is better to try to use what's there than try to start a new party. The argument could be made that the GOP is the current verson of the Whigs, but these are different times.
I think once the dust settles here, and the citizens of this country begin to realize how much this fiscal irresponsibility, both Republican and Democrat, is going to cost them and their children and grandchildren, they will start demanding representatives who will be more responsible stewards of their positions.
We have turbulent times ahead. Jobs will be lost, businesses will fail. We must let them. That's not easy but as long as we try and save every job and every business we will never heal. |
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while GWB may be criticized for many of his decisions. The fact remains he did put the terrorists on the run and Americans have been kept safe, especially here in our homeland. For that, we owe him a debt of gratitude. Hopefully, Obama will be just as successful in this vital area of governance. |
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It may yet be possible to save the GOP but I am not seeing much coming from it to give me hope.
Either way you are correct about the jobs and businesses.
We can only hope that people wake up before it is too late. |
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I would rather be a member of my 'nutty cult' than a memeber of yours. At least I have hope for a great 'afterlife' with my awesome eternal companion and children. You have squato. |
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Just ask your boy Obama.What is it that libs and rinos fear so much about Sarah Palin? |
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in addition to "The FairTax Book", would be "Common Sense Economics" by Gwatney, Stroup, and Lee. Here's the website: http://commonsenseeconomics.com/index.php
They suggest (among other things) having a rule requiring that all Congressional Spending Bills have a 3/4 vote in both houses to pass. |
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did she get busted with ? here in new mexico and throughout most of the rural west pot is the drug of choice for most the old folks. big deal |
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