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...Government from the thugs, by the thugs, for the thugs. |
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promotes peer pressure and intimidation.....
plain and simple...... |
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Backward direction is change isn't it? |
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...A disaster is also change. |
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Just another way for the labor unions to control our work force, and motivate the further export of our economy |
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isn't she the idiot that wanted to investigate the congress to ensure proper fealty to HER version of America?
And then wasn't she the idiot who actually denied saying what WE ALL saw her say?
And then - weren't the people of Minnesota the idiots who put this idiot back in the congress?
I'd actually prefer Joe the Plumber... |
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Just what we need more businesses like the auto industry. |
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No quicker way to chase MORE jobs from the US is forced unionization......AND It will create MORE illegal immigration for illegal aliens to take the place of Union Jobs that remained.
It will put the nail in the coffins of Union stronghold states (not like they need another nail in their coffins which are already being lowered in the ground) like Ohio, Michigan, Pennslyvania, New York, etc, etc. Jobs will move overseas AND to other states that are right to work states.......
And the people of the US will stand back and see that the power of free markets will act once again, and move jobs out of the US, and crush the stupidity of the morons in congress.
They will see the liberal sh!tfoolery of it all, that it is a liberal policy meant to reward the votes by the Union for the moonbats....Unions are going to suffer once again.....
This will backfire......and the moonies will cry foul to the republicans.....
When will they learn?
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Unions are stupid enough to think that politicians can give them power back and advance their cause....power that left them many, many years ago......power that will not come back to unions that participate in the free market.
Politicians (liberal moonbats) are stupid enough to cowtow to Unions because it means "votes" for them so that they can stay in power. Union goals are irrelevant to Politicians.....only their votes matter.
I give you Michigan as peoples evidence #1.....run by the Moonbats. |
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Maybe the Unions can do for other industries what they have done for steel, coal and the auto industries. |
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This may be a stupid question... But how did this become something that Congress should be involved with in the first place???
Exactly how is union voting rules/regulations (for lack of a more appropriate word or phrase) something that should be legislated?
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Union is the Federal Gov't Employees Union! Think government can't get worse? Think again!
This is simply more proof, as if it is needed, that the leftists are not interested in individual freedoms on any level! They despise the Constitution, mostly secretly, but Obama has written that he does not like our Constitution and yet he is supposed to take an oath to Protect and Defend the Constitution to the "best of his ability". I guess he doesn't have any ability in that area. |
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Who's hiring? The government! The only sector that had a 9,000 increase while the rest of the sectors were in the negative! Who has a more stable, permanent, position than a government employee? Who has better health care? Or, pension? Maybe the auto workers. That's all. And, hopefully, not for long. It's ridiculous that our gov't is run by a UNION!!!
Living in New York, which is billions in the hole, I've seen the damage done by the state union. The politicians are too scared to cut any jobs or offer less benefits! As soon as my family is able, we are leaving this stupid state with it's ridiculous taxes and extremely high utilities. Unfortunately, I won't leave this country... |
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As a non-union construction general contractor just outside of Philadelphia, our company is very concerned about the impact of this "Card Check" legislation. If any of you think that the Sopranos is just TV entertainment, I got news for you. Organized crime is alive and well in Southeast PA and salivating at the chance to expand their influence. |
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The following numbers were posted on the LRC Blog today:
If we add in the Citi bailout, the total cost [of the bailout]now exceeds $4.6165 trillion dollars. People have a hard time conceptualizing very large numbers, so let’s give this some context. The current Credit Crisis bailout is now the largest outlay in American history.
Jim Bianco of Bianco Research crunched the inflation adjusted numbers. The bailout has cost more than all of these big budget government expenditures – combined:
• Marshall Plan: Cost: $12.7 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $115.3 billion • Louisiana Purchase: Cost: $15 million, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $217 billion • Race to the Moon: Cost: $36.4 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $237 billion • S&L Crisis: Cost: $153 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $256 billion • Korean War: Cost: $54 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $454 billion • The New Deal: Cost: $32 billion (Est), Inflation Adjusted Cost: $500 billion (Est) • Invasion of Iraq: Cost: $551b, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $597 billion • Vietnam War: Cost: $111 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $698 billion • NASA: Cost: $416.7 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $851.2 billion
TOTAL: $3.92 trillion |
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Ms Bachman: All the workers have to do is say no, I won't sign the card, and NO, I dont want to be a union member. A real man with a modicum of gumption will have no problem saying NO!.
We ask high school kids to "just say no" to drug selling peers, but big strong working men are afaid of a union organizer? puleeze..
This is a ridiculous issue to be expending political capital with a filibuster.
Do you want to see a filibuster? How about abortion enabling bills, stem cell research, so called "gay" rights, aka "sodomy rights", per.v marriages, hate crimes legislation, higher taxes, civil rights laws forcing churches to hire reprobates who dont share their beliefs. What about the government financing contraception for teens??
I could go on, but you get the point, surely?
FYI: Ms Bachman, a filibuster can be killed by a simple majority vote as former Senate Majority leader, Bill Frist proved, when the dims were getting ready to filibuster Justice Sam Alito-all the majority party has to do is change the senate rules disallowing filibusters on any designated legislation they choose. So Minnesota and Georgia really wont change that much.
We need to get back to MORAL issues first, or remain in the minority.
Sen Frist called it the "nuclear option"
You doubt that? then google "frist and "nuclear option".. Get a clue Michelle.
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What Michelle says is true, and what stranger1 says is true in a naive world.
Yes, the worker CAN say NO, but will he be allowed to? Have you ever seen union intimidation? I have; in fact, I was a victim of it in the 1970's. You don't get a chance to say no.
Unions have insisted on all sorts of rules on votes, ranging from a vote within 60 days to opportunities which the employer must make for the union to present its case.
But even more important, what do you have against a FREE election? Why should you want to take away the opportunity to have a discussion and an election? Do you think that what is good for the unions of other countries is not good for ours? Go look at the letter which was signed by all of your Dem buddies in the Senate. http://kevincolby.com/tag/secret-ballot/. Or better yet, listen to what George McGovern is saying.
I think that the Democratic party should change its name to the Populist party if it passes this piece of abomination. Because it is NOT Democratic. |
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thehistorian wrote:
"Yes, the worker CAN say NO, but will he be allowed to? Have you ever seen union intimidation? I have; in fact, I was a victim of it in the 1970's. You don't get a chance to say no."
Historian, what did the union do to intimidate you into voting for a union shop?
Really, I am not arguing, I would honestly like some information to understand better what people such as yourself mean whnethey use the word "intimidation"?
Are you talking about being socially ostracised or getting the cold shoulder from your peers? Or called vile names? Or theatened? if threatened, what kind of threats? beaten up? and if so, by whom?
In know thats a lot of questions but the word "intimidated" can mean almost anything.
I have known lots of union workers and never heard that intimidation complaint.
Actually, the only complains I have heard about unions were that the union spends some of their dues supporting issues they dont agree with...
do companies ever intimidate workers? they sure dd in the 20's, and 30's. As a historian of course you know that.
(some workers claim they are still intimidated by corporations.) they may be exaggerating of course...
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very simple ,without a secret ballot evreryone knows how you voted .i can garuntee those that did not vote union will be frozen out . |
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The balance of power has been with the employer for decades. Card check has been legal and used for decade; most recently with AT&T.
The Coalition for a Democratic Workplace is a group of business organizations that is opposed to worker’s exercising their right to have a voice in the work place.
Companies routinely intimidate, harass, coerce and even fire people who try to form unions— and current labor law is helpless to stop them. The penalties are so slight for breaking the law that corporations simply consider it the cost of doing business. The government found that companies violated the rights of 26,824 workers in 2006 alone (and those are just the documented cases). A quarter even illegally fire workers.
Even when workers win their unions, many companies delay bargaining any way they can. According to a new study by MIT, 44 percent of workers who form a new union never reach a first contract.
Check your facts on what penalties unions have received during organizing campaigns; you will find it is minuscule compared to the corporations.
The idea that what is good for big business is good for America isn’t always the case.
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