That would remove the barriers to work, saving, and investment that our current tax system imposes. It would spread the tax burden, rather than concentrating it onto the high-income segment of the population (which doesn't include all persons considered "rich"; many "rich" people have very low incomes--they live off their accumulated investments and such). And it would eliminate the burden of tax compliance and the costs that entails.
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I gazed into my crystal ball and I saw our future.
The United States will begin an extremely anemic recovery later this year that will continue over until 2010. At some point in 2011, when the tax increases begin in earnest and the bailout money runs out, America will slide back into ANOTHER recession. Also, watch oil prices begin to rise as oil exporters realize there is little chance for increased drilling in the United States.
And the 2011 recession is going to be a doozy, almost the very definition of stagflation. |
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the price of everything else--when the massive amount of dollars currently being printed by the Federal Reserve fully hit the market. |
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The ice princess' budget is based on 70 dollars a barrel. she's facing a HUGE deficit, if that price does not come up from where it is currently. If she can't get the price up, she faces an uphill battle to get re elected in 10. I don't want to support the AK economy. If it was managed well in the first place, all your eggs would not be in the same basket. |
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we have the 'wisdom' of the other side. I won't bother to try and explain all the nuances of why tax cuts are a good thing. Would get no where.
I will just state it in simple terms.
If tax cuts lessened the amount of money the government received (which it has been proven it does not) why exactly is that a bad thing?
The government spending less money is actually a good thing. Ignoring the fact that it is not their money anyway, and that it is always easier to spend someone elses money on someone else, the bottom line is the government spending more and more money has never, and will never result in prosperity. The real world doesn't work that way.
Hence it is the fundamental difference between Conservatives and Liberals. The role of government. We believe the government should operate in the limited role they were designed to do. Liberals believe the government is the be all, end all, the solution to everything.
I can already predict one reaction. "Someone has to help out the (fill in the blank group). Don't you care about the (fill in the blank group)?"
To that I say this, (and most Conservatives should as well.) Yes we do care about the (fill in the blank group),we just don't believe the federal government is the proper agent for the solution. |
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"We believe the government should operate in the limited role they were designed to do."
And yet you consistently nominate, support, and elect people who expand government. The only possible conclusion is that you don't really believe what you profess to believe. |
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not confuse those of us who believe that (Conservatives) with those that currently lead the party. (Republicans) There is a clear and distinct difference. Always has been, always will be. First there were 'Rockefeller Republicans' and now what I call 'Bush Republicans'. Those who wish to go the 'moderate/liberal' route. They got that in McCain (and others). Worked out quite well for them didn't it?
Based on the current 'leadership' of the party, it is for all and intent and purposes a corpse, a shell of its former self. Part of purpose of two parties is for one to be the opposition to the other. I would be just as appalled if the Dem rolled over as the GOP now is. One party control leads to nothing but stagnation. |
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"Do not confuse those of us who believe that (Conservatives) with those that currently lead the party. (Republicans)"
You support them, give them money, vote for them. You say the same things they say. Why wouldn't I confuse the two groups? They consist of all the same people. The Republican party is dead, the Conservative movement is dead; same people, same beliefs, same cause of death.
You're creating this completely nonexistent split solely to avoid responsibility for your own failures. |
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you speak of something you know nothing about. Me. Also know nothing of the difference between the two because you are looking from the outside in. Very difficult to see what is going on from that vantage point.
Since the Republican party has not truly been Conservative in some time it is hard to relate the downward plunge of the party with Conservatism.
The only ones that have 'failed' is the party itself. It has failed the Conservatives by trying so desperately to be more like the other party, in the misguided idea that it would make them liked. Again that hasn't worked out quite that way for them.
If the party continues on its current path of simply rolling over and trying to be like the other party then the party will be truly dead. After all why would someone vote for a liberal big government type wanna be, when they could vote for the real thing. (Democrats) |
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"Since the Republican party has not truly been Conservative in some time it is hard to relate the downward plunge of the party with Conservatism."
Reagan significantly increased the size of government; was Reagan a conservative? |
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Now that Obama has taken office where are the crazies? Noone is telling this nutjob that, since she doesn't support the prez, SHE is unpatriotic. Where is her unamerican scarlett letter? We were all awful for not suppoeting Bush but Obama? We'll not touch that subject. McCain may not have been her man but she wanted Palin. Why? Because Palin would pave the way for her own fasicist nonsense done the road. Not like she's not getting away with it right here in MN. God is spelled Dog backward Bachmann. Maybe your visions are crossed. If you really and truly want to find out if this was your're calling, you should ask a minister that doesn't recognize you from Youtube. |
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Serious up a little bit boy.
Remember who Reagan had in the house and senate.
Sorry bro........
Liberals will always retain the title of the big government, high taxation, spend happy party.
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He's only been Prez fof 4 Days
Rep. Bachmann is citing the same organizations that said the Bush policies were just great for America. Also remember the VP saying high oil prices were good for America or deficit spending isn't a bad thing.
Rep.Bachmann you are a member of the party the is mostly responsible for this mess; why don't you just say mistakes were made and stop blaming Obama.
It appears that you've learned nothing from the last election; people want our country to go in a new direction and a spirit of bipartisianship from our elected officials.
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Are the Dumbocrats and President Obama "insane"? One definition of insanity I recently read is: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." I think this is enlightening and fear this is true for our current & recent governments! What else can explain their actions or inactions?
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Look in the Mirror.
Its Friday, girlfriend. You need to go out and have a drink......Its called BDS...and it sounds like you still have it.
If there ever was a time to go out and create a huge stimulus / spending / wellfare bill it would have been 9/12/2001.
The pain the US is in right now is due to 2 of the biggest liberal policy failures in the US.
#1 Failure to have a sustained self sufficient energy policy. To appease the Greenies
#2 CRA and Fannie / Freddie Support of it. To appease the lazy.
Take those 2 elements out of the last 24 month equation and you get an economy a H#LL of a lot better than it is now.......
We are about to enter into Liberal Failure #3...that being the government playing "GOD" and sending monies for pet projects with the hopeless goal of "stimulating" the economy.
But no, Kim.....its all about the Alinsky tactic about tearing down the person......
Sometimes its about being a Patriot.....sometimes its simply learning from history......
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"It appears that you've learned nothing from the last election; people want our country to go in a new direction and a spirit of bipartisianship from our elected officials."
This is French for "do what the moonbats say"
What I've learned is that Liberals are FVCKING masterful at laying blame......and the talking heads on the idiot box are their sausage cadddies.
Here is the Liberal playbook.
1..Find a person to Attack.
2..Create a premise with which to attack that person.
3..Continually attack on that premise.
4..Marginalize the Character of the person based upon continual attacks.
Using the above......"o:" was elected as the candidate of "look at them" "I'm not them" "vote for me" just like all the other lying liberals that try to get into office for nothing other than having power.......
Sorry Buddy, Sherrif Barts message of Change is very shortly going to go from "Change we can bleeve in" to Change..."Brother can you spare some"
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Final comment.......
Bob, something tells me that you are a government bureaucrat that would love nothing more than to continue to have productive americans pay your salary........
Scarlett.........my god are you ignorant...
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Click on my name and read about the wasted money the government says we need to spend. This is ludicrous and you COW supporters think it will save you.
Here's s thought.
1 trillion dollars...do you know how many zeros follow that?
Well, let me put that money in real terms.
It is 3k per person to make that money "magically materialize". Now, it is borrowed money, right? Yep. (based on 350 million populus)
So now, take that over 30 years plus interest. My kids will be paying back 500,000 dollars because this Administration wants to create more sheisse programs that mostly already exist.
Is that what you really want?
How about that money in your pocket? How much would we stimulate the economy if my family of 6 got 18k? You do the math.
Sheer lunacy to spend money that is not even earned. Credit SUCKS. |
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The Fairtax, by eliminating the morally reprehensible act of extortion...oops, I meant withholding, takes a huge chunk of political power from the, well, power-brokers. The Fairtax is also a flat tax. Now I'd be much happier if they got rid of this quaint notion about keeping it 'revenue neutral' by maintaining the rate 23%. Why not set the rate where it creates the most productivity? Because that would mean a rate much closer to zero. |
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This is another anachronism tantamount to price-controls, and gee doesn't that work well.
If a min wage of $7 is better than $5, why isn't $15 better yet? Why not $50? Eliminating this most idiotic piece of legislation would go a long way to lowering the unemployment rate.
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Conservatism is all about POWER TO THE PEOPLE.
-The people keep more of their own money
-The people are more empowered to determine their own lives
Dems are all about more power to the government and binding people to government handouts. |
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"Bob, something tells me that you are a government bureaucrat"
Nope, retired computer scientist. I did work for DARPA and NRL in the 70's and 80's, but not as a bureaucrat. |
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It appears that you've learned nothing from the last election; people want our country to go in a new direction and a spirit of bipartisianship from our elected officials.
Also your venom speaks volumes about your character |
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townhalls number one job is to get rid of john mccain and his fellow rinos. this would cause huge stimulus. |
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Same Rules Apply For Dems as Reps.
Cut The Freakin' Taxes,Stop The Freakin' Spending !
We Need An Intervention Here.
Stop Congress Before It Spends Again ! |
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When will you stupid Republicans learn that cutting taxes on the rich does not lead to job creation. The Reagan and Bush tax cuts did not produce more jobs.
Cutting taxes on the wealthy will only drive up our debt and make us more indebt to the wealthy.
We have heard from the neo clowns now lets just wait and see if Obama's economic policies will work.
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Well it worked for the Nazi's almost all the Jewish had jobs during there stay in the concentration camps. |
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Are the Dumbocrats and President Obama "insane"? One definition of insanity I recently read is: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
This is why we should repeal the Bush tax cuts!
Because they haven't helped our economy and we almost doubled our debt! |
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Bachmann wants to cut wasteful spending? How about farm subsidies collected by wealthy nonfarmers like Bachmann? And you people rant about government workers. Your precious Michele has never had anything BUT a government job.
But there's nothing new about hypocrisy among this crowd is there? |
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"How about farm subsidies collected by wealthy nonfarmers like Bachmann?"
Monkeywrench plowed this field back on January 13th.
On her disclosure forms, Bachmann lists “Bachmann Farm Family LP, Independence, WI,” as an asset with a value up to $250,000, that produced 2006 income for her of between $2,501-$5,000. The farm is owned and operated by her husband's brother, not Michelle Bachmann.
Michelle Bachmann is a wealthy farmer? It's only one letter that separates cheap shot from cheap $hit. At least try to be honest Monkeywrench.
Michele Bachmann has done nothing illegal by collecting these federal farm subsidies. The establishment of a limited partnership for a farming operation no doubt is to reduce her tax liability—i.e., a tax shelter. Democrats never use tax shelters, right?
Bachmann never denied that she received the subsidy.
Obama's Treasury appointee, Geithner, failed to pay his taxes and only did so when he got caught. Now that is an act that of obfuscation and dishonesty so you must really admire that guy, right?
Come back when you have something more worthwhile to say. |
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"Getting rid of the Minimum wage
Well it worked for the Nazi's almost all the Jewish had jobs during there stay in the concentration camps."
I have read some really, really, really stupid comments from the liberal trolls here, but this one may win the prize.
By the way, it wasn't tax cuts that have failed to stimulate the economy and help create jobs. It's the runaway spending of both political parties.
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http://minnesotaindependent.com/26721/bachmanns-statements- on-stimulus-raise-a-few-eyebrows
Michelle Bachmann again proved how unintelligent she is. She says that this new stimulus bill has enough money in it to write a check to every man, woman, and child in the world for the amount of $1,430. So I got my 50 cent calculator out and divided 787 billion (amount of dollars in the stimulus bill) by 6.8 billion (amount of people currently in the world) and I came up with $115.74. I calculated it three times to make sure I was correct. I’m not sure how Michelle learned to do simple math but she really needs to go back to elementary school to get it right. We need intelligent people who can not only do simple math but can also comprehend stimulus bills far beyond our expertise in office. |
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""A Congressional Budget Office analysis of President Barack Obama ’s plan found that most of the approximately $355 billion in proposed discretionary spending on highways, renewable energy and other initiatives wouldn’t be spent before 2011."
That line was debunked about two weeks ago. It is flat-out embarrassing for somebody like Michelle Bachmann to be quoting it like it's the truth. |
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