Tuesday, July 21, 2009
Posted by: Michele Bachmann at 3:14 PM
Yesterday, as the House Energy and Commerce Committee marked-up the Democrat's proposed health care reform legislation, Democrats made it clear that they are more than willing to put a Washington bureaucrat between you and your doctor.

Congressman Phil Gingrey (R-GA), a former ob-gyn who practiced for 26 years before being elected to Congress and a member of the Committee, offered an amendment that would prevent government bureaucrats at the proposed Center for Quality Improvement from dictating to physicians what treatments they can or can't offer.

As Committee Republicans have noted, "in the Democrat's legislation, the Center is tasked with determining what treatments and procedures are most cost effective. This manner of government sponsored research, in conjunction with the new Federal crowd-out health plan would represent the first step towards implementing a policy of bureaucrat health care rationing."

Rep. Gingrey's commonsense amendment was defeated by an almost straight party-line vote, with only one Democrat voting with all the Republicans.

Democrats also rejected another amendment that would have allowed state governments to decide what kind of insurance coverage to offer public employees.  So Minnesotans don’t want their state to pay for abortion services for state or local employees?  Republicans can respect that.  Democrats, on the other hand, want DC to dictate the very specifics of all these health care plans – and if states refuse, they’d have their funding withheld. 

As Congressman Henry Waxman, Chairman of the Committee, stated, ““We can’t tell states what to do directly.  We have to use whatever leverage we have over them.”

This is the point to their health care proposal?  Putting government right in the middle of the health decisions that should be made by you and your doctor? This is wrong, and not the path our nation should be following.


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Joe writes: Tuesday, July, 21, 2009 3:22 PM
Fairness vs. Best

It is said 5% of patients use up 50% of health care dollars. I do not know if that is true or not, but I will assume it is.

I want everyone to have the best possible health care, but I know that is not possible. There will always be haves and have nots. But what Obama and his Democratic cronies want to focus on is fairness (although there is nothing fair in class warfare)

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15154

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=700da4c9-ed0f-40 36-a017-ce2cc0667a78

Yet Obama and the Dems ignore which system provides the highest benefits to the most people.

http://www.professorbainbridge.com/professorbainbridgecom/2 009/07/milton-friedman-on-obamacare.html

Milton Friedman recognized this a while ago. His words and warnings are still true.

H/T: Protein Wisdom and Professor Bainbridge
Kaboom writes: Tuesday, July, 21, 2009 3:28 PM
baloney
cost stands between me and my doctor. He doesn't take insurance now. I pay him, I wait to see what my carrier will pay, they pay me. Insurance companies stand in the way of treatment now.
vonryansexpress writes: Tuesday, July, 21, 2009 3:36 PM
When insurers appear humanitarian
If you've ever spoken with a claims person on your medical or dental coverage and argued that something is covered or isn't excluded or isn't a pre-existing or isn't elective then you know how tough the argument can become.

Imagine if it was a self-rightous bureaucrat assigned to meet and exceed the latest 'five year plan.' The long gone insurer arguments will be remembered fondly.

Allowing government to dictate health care choices and medical treatment is subservience to power on levels that only Richard Lamm could embrace.
JPK writes: Tuesday, July, 21, 2009 3:51 PM
Kaboom
What are you on Medicare? I think you should find a new doctor. And if you think Insurance companies do that by design you are wrong. The Health Insurance Market is one of the most over-regulated industries in the world. The paperwork alone required by state and federal agencies ad 15% to medical costs. It was the Federal Government itself that introduced the idea of HMOs, not the insurance agencies.

Health Insurance as we know it was created in 1943, and is a relic of WWII. The only system is stacked in favor of businesses for the very fact that it was intentionally designed as such. The government gives large tax breaks to companies that provide insurance coverage, and that coverage that is provided is the only employee benefit that is not taxed.

The government has always been knee deep in Health Care.
wbfrank9 writes: Tuesday, July, 21, 2009 4:12 PM
WHO
recently graded the US health care system #1. For now...
This Obamacare has NOTHING to do with health care. It is all about money and power.
The regular working Joe is going to suffer even more.
The rich or wealthy will always be able to afford what is going to be a luxury: health care. They can pay.
And this includes the DC beauocrats are included in this 'have' crowd.
And they will always be able to send their kids to the better schools. They get the best health care, the private school tuition, and the best food... who pays?

We The People do.

Still the best health care is what we have. Cut out the excessive medical suits (Tort reform); make it easier to set aside tax free monies in MSA. That would be a good start.
Big Sky Cowboy writes: Tuesday, July, 21, 2009 4:12 PM
Ka-Dud
Mortadella.
NeoConScum writes: Tuesday, July, 21, 2009 4:38 PM
Snake Oil Bamma Told Meredith Viera
this a.m. that he's not personally familiar with congressional "outlaw private health care" ponzi paragraphs...Mz.Viera actually pressed His Majesty on several points and, without TOTUS, he just sounded embarrassing.
JKD writes: Tuesday, July, 21, 2009 4:42 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy
Good article. However, consider the following comment from the article:

"Putting government right in the middle of the health decisions that should be made by you and your doctor?"

Isn't this what conservatives like Ms. Bachmann are advocating with respect to contraceptive and abortion services??


rackoons writes: Tuesday, July, 21, 2009 4:46 PM
What a hoot!
Over 130 Pubs were speaking in Special Orders today and all on the socialist healthcare fraud. Steny Hoyer went nuts. Last night the naif in the WH told liberal bloggers that he would sneak the healthcare bill through on a Reconciliation Bill which is not open to amendments. The entire Cap and Trade and Health Care is killing the taxpayer now and onto eternity if these frauds pass. Socialist pacifist agendas have never worked in history . Never. Why try to repeat stuff thinking there will another outcome. But, Dems do that and that alone is a definition of insanity.
Kaboom writes: Tuesday, July, 21, 2009 5:24 PM
JKD
brilliant point.

JPK, I go to the best internist in LA (probably in the world..he is that good and takes no new patients, he has a waiting list...we've been with him for years as he developed his practice). He is successful and popular enough to tell the carriers to go to heck. So he did. I'd pay my last penny if I needed him to be my doctor.

I have insurance but they can't tell me, anymore than a government can, who to use provided I am willing to take the payment responsibility on myself. That's what it is about...who pays. Most Americans would prefer that they need not budget for unforeseeable medical care, an impossibility. Think about it...most people prefer withholding than paying their own taxes each month.

Healthcare will be Obama's Waterloo--he's Wellington.
Exeye writes: Tuesday, July, 21, 2009 5:40 PM
Logan's Run
In order to live past 30, you must renew. Or, Soylent Green. When you're over 50, you're dinner.
Eugene writes: Tuesday, July, 21, 2009 7:44 PM
Apparently O doesn't know where to stand
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/07/21/obama_not _familiar_with_key_provision_in_health_care_bill.html


Hey Trolls, which idiot staffer screened that call and where did they dump the body?
K.G. writes: Tuesday, July, 21, 2009 8:43 PM
Absolutely Right, Neo
Obama's ramming this caca down our throat while have NO CLUE what it says. He just blathers on and on about how we can keep our doc, etc. while the drafts that are coming out completely contradict him.

Even the Soylent Green people were highly organized and knew what they were doing.

This administration is a total bunch of baffoons as well as a bunch of bastards.

And speaking of Waterloo, BHO's not even Napolean. I would call BHO a madman except not so much man. Just a spoiled little kid--and a crazy one at that.
JD's Handsome Son writes: Tuesday, July, 21, 2009 10:56 PM
Some Nice Things to Say
One good thing will come of nationalized health care. As apathetic Americans, sedated with stupid TV shows, are confronted with rationed treatment, rude doctors and staff promoted to brain surgeons by EEO rules and civil rights lawsuits, who can't be fired, long waiting lines and other unpleasantries that always come with government programs, they'll get mad. Their numbed minds will get right and they'll be looking for the guilty parties.

True conservative patriots can harnass the peoples' anger and properly channel it to the left. Hopefully, this energy will not be squandered on useless communications with representatives. Hopefully this energy can be used more effectively and positively on leftist scum in high office and their political supporters.

When leftist politicians and their parastitic constituencies show up in droves at all of America's emergency rooms with blund head trauma, maybe we'll get our health care back.

No more debating with these useless pieces of human garbage. Squash them like the cockroaches they are.

Riders on the Storm writes: Tuesday, July, 21, 2009 11:26 PM
Kaboom
You complain about your insurance carrier a lot. Why not stop paying those insurance premiums, cancel your coverage and put the money in a Medical Savings Account instead? Oh, wait, if this bill passes you will be required by law to purchase insurance. So much for choice.
B2slim writes: Wednesday, July, 22, 2009 12:58 AM
REP BACHMANN

You are a shinning light in this darkest moment in the history of this great country !

CONTINUE TO fight!

1. remind your dem associates that
A. medical care for auto accidents is covered by auto insurance ( REP CARDIN, MD needs to educate himself or resign)

2. slip n fall real or imagined is covered by liability insurance!

NOW: we do not need to spend 1-2 trillion of our grandchildrens future to

1. give free HC to the 20 million illegals and migrant workers in the USA !

that leaves 27 million to be concerned about

10- 15 million are "SELF INSURED" or rich enough like Kennedy or Steve Jobbs to pay cash!

that leaves 17 million to be concerned about

7-10 million of the remaining uninsured qualify for STUDENT HC, Medicaid, sCHIPS, state funded programs !

so resolve the one bad issue: those who are denied H Insurance for pre-existing conditions
which is a critical problem facing no more than 8 -10 million people in any cycle.

take a few billion of that 1.5 trillion and write each of them a check for 2 million in a personal HSA and save trillions into the future!

ASK your colleagues why we have to destroy our entire HC system for OBAMA Scare (population control and filling the pockets of special interests) (which the MAYO CLINIC calls a disaster)

THEN get a bill to reform all medical malpractice law suits and class action suits and truly reduce H Care for everyone.

PROBLEM SOLVED !

WHY ALL OF THIS PSYCHO DRAMA and Hysteria to accomodate CZAR John Holderen's population control agenda for Obama.

Michael writes: Wednesday, July, 22, 2009 8:28 PM
Rep. Bachmann

Hasn't your mother had the government standing between her and her doctor for at least the last 15 years?

When did she begin on medicare; it is amazing that she has made it to 80.
dave writes: Monday, July, 27, 2009 9:54 AM
Thanks to the Democrats
On this legislation, no Tort reform. Why ?
Trial lawyers are 99 percent for liberal legislation and helped put the liberal majority into office.
Maybe, after 'health care reform' is bankrupting the country faster than the Dems want, maybe then they will do tort reform to the extreme and allow no suing of the doctors treating the patients in the govt plan. This will impact the average American, but ironically, not the Congress that heaved this garbage care on the US citizens.
Michael writes: Tuesday, September, 01, 2009 11:44 PM
Rep. Gingrey
Why doesn't he propose a law that prevents insurance companies from deciding on medical treatments? As an ob-gyn he must have had the insurance companies deny certain procedures. Anyone with any health care experience knows that this is done all the time.
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