Demand is down and oil has dropped 30 dollars (or roughly 300% more than the expected impact of offshore drilling without a drop in consumption).
The problem is solving itself through a stronger dollar and decreased demand.
End oil dependence, not foreign oil dependence. Tired of fluctuating pricing wreaking havoc on the economy? Pass real alternative energy legislation. Simply shifting a fraction of consumption from Canadian oil to US offshore oil is meaningless pandering and the opposite of real leadership. The solution to our drug problem is not homemade drugs!
Ride the bus, anger an Arab. |
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Keep it up. Make Priuses unnecessary! |
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This from a nutjob who believes there is no "wildlife" in ANWR, that the problem with the environment was "solved" 2,000 years ago and that drilling NOW would bring down prices at the pump immediately! In the election of GOP crackpots, this one takes the cake.
Breathtaking stupidity. |
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Name calling and misrepresentation of Michele comments only make you look like the nutjob.
Is that the best you have to offer to the discussion?
How about spelling out a solution that people can believe in?
Is no brainpower on the left?
Pitiful...
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How can I find out if my representative has supported you in your quest for energy reform? Bob Inglis in particular is the one to whom I reference. |
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....coincides with Kimberly disappearance....
Could Clark Kent really be......?
Naaaaaaah
Yes on 8! |
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You may be right, as usual. The name is different, but the sentiment is the same. Is Laurelei showing signs of BDS?. ;-) |
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It was the removal of the executive moratorium on offshore drilling that started the drop in oil prices. The projected demand was weighed against the anticipated increase in oil supplies.
I suggest that, before you fly off on one of your kimbat-esque mindless Daily Kook talking point rants, you actually leave your Mommy's basement and get a job at McDonald's so you can save a little money to go to school. |
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What the heck are many of these posts about? Surely not about intelligent ideas based on relevant facts and analyses! |
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Welcome to the Townhall blog, where conservatives whack trolls and jessicalange/kimberlyric/kimberly/laurelie (apparently) is our favorite target. She is a Bush bashing, Bachmann hating communist, living in her own self made prison.
Happy Friday everyone. |
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Happy Friday to you too son....
I am off to the Harvest Crusade....a Christian Festival and virtual lib free zone...
Yes on 8! |
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How in the world can anyone ever vote for such a socialist, crooked politician as Dirty Little Nancy. She will not allow a vote on drilling, but yet she is financially invested in wind power. She is willing to screw over the citizens of the U.S. just to line her pocket with money and kiss up to the far Left Loonies like Move On. Too bad Move On does not just move on to some nice communist country. They will all fit right in. |
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You read my mind. Lovely Lorelei sounds exactly like Kimberly, who as you noted, just DISAPPEARED the other day. Maybe Kim is enjoying a luxury vacation on the capital gains from her trust fund, or maybe she was sent back to AgitProp 101 Re-Education Camp, or, as you suggest, maybe she has reappeared under an alias. LOL |
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"Ride the bus, anger an Arab."
It might work if the buses ran 24 hours a day and if there were bus routes everywhere. I work rotating shift work. Buses don't run early enough when I work. After a 12 hour shift I don't feel like riding a bus for two to three hours when I can drive home in 15 minutes.
So, I have a better idea and it kills two birds with one stone.
Drill some oil wells, anger an Arab and the far left liberals. |
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Looks like you scared off Laurelei/Kimberly. Wonder what nom de guerre she will come up with next. :) |
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What a pittyfull excuse for a speaker. She don't care about the people as long as her "Status" is where its suppose to be. The American public should see their mistake and vote that crazy women out. |
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...makes Speaker Pelosi's criticism of the Iraqi parliament taking a vacation during the middle of "a crisis" look like the pot calling the kettle black, doesn't it?
DOESN'T IT? |
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"...makes Speaker Pelosi's criticism of the Iraqi parliament taking a vacation during the middle of "a crisis" look like the pot calling the kettle black, doesn't it?"
Next thing you know, someone will call you "racist" for your obvious black kettle comment. Using the B-word isn't allowed this campaign season. |
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Have you called on him to do so, or just Pelosi? If you haven't called for Bush to do so, you're just grandstanding.
But we knew that. |
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IF the Republicans stick together and stand firm on the All Of The Above platform, this election will reap the GOP a landslide, at all levels across America in November.
Americans overwhelmingly want to begin refining and drilling MORE, right NOW. Especially since Russia has reared it's ugly head again on the world scene, America needs to be energy independent. Russia is on the move, and we don't know what country they'll feel the need to invade, and they're talking about nuking Poland. We'd better start building refineries RIGHT NOW.
Those 5 Republicans in the Gang of 10 should be ostrasized and shunned by the GOP in both houses. Nancy Pelosi should be slapped and sent home in disgrace.
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I have to agree with Methusela and disagree with ReadABook. I work off hour and I just can't hop on a bus and go home. I also live over an Hour from work so by the time I got home using the bus I'd have to start heading back to work. I do agree that we can should reduce are oil dependence threw Nucular, Clean Burning Coal, Natral gas and even Wind and solar. But Speaker Pelosi (only elected by one small group in San Fransico) won't even let are state elecded (by the People) representatives (from all over the USA) Debait and vote on any energy issue. Yes drilling wont solive everything but neather will conserving. Dew to world demand (China growing need and 1/5 pop. of world.) and not just USA demand. I say let are Democrace work and lets vote on it. If Drilling loses then will find something the majorty can agree on. |
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It is very Plain, Pelosi, and the rest that are causing these problems in congress, be it in the house or the senate, have to go. But if nothing else, Pelosi has got to be taken out as speaker. She has done more to damage the growth of this great country of ours then the last five speakers combined. She and the rest of the do nothing Democ"RATS", are sinking our ship folks. We need to stand up on our hind legs and quit taking their crap and throw them out of office. We still control the vote in this country. Speak out, don't vote for any of them that are dragging us down this fall. |
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Did you tell the Lake Elmo firefighters about your vote against funding for their emergency response equipment? I bet not. Did you tell the folks at the gas station how many times you've voted against renewable energy? No? Whenm are you going to have a town hall meeting in your district? You haven't had a single public meeting since being elected. Not one.
Hey wagmanfigit, that's some creative spelling you got going there.
Brickhouse, you waiting for a GOP landslide? Let me know how that works out for you in November! |
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THE WAGES IN CONGRESS SHOULD REFLECT THE HOURS WORKED. SO THEIR WAG ES SHOULD BE PART TIME FOR THOSE ON VACATION JUST HOW MANY DAYS A YEAR DO THEY WORK . |
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consumption going down means the economy is shrinking. This is good? |
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i fully agree with your sentiments concerning these part time legislators getting full time pay, gold plated benefits for life when working stiffs are forced to live within their means.
When b hussein announced for the presidency he had served some 143 days in the senate. That indicates he was not at his job another 107 assuming a 50 week work schedule and two weeks vacation. That comes out to 21 weeks of paid vacation.
And congress can't understand why they have such low ratings. Used car salesmen, and amway sellers are demanding they recieve more respect and not to be listed as among the sleasiest of jobs when congress should be heading the list of most useless occupations
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...over at DailyKooks and Huff that the reason the WORLD's CURRENT TOP OIL PRODUCERS (aka our enemies in the mid-east and other commie countries) are LOWERING PRICES is ... wait for it...
BECAUSE WE ARE THREATENING TO BECOME OUR OWN SUPPLIER!!!!
If we DO THAT then THEY no longer have us over a barrel (so to speak).
Any one old enough to remember the gas shortage of the 1970's knows that we've seen this show before.
1.Our enemies raise the price of oil until it becomes unbearable.
2.The avg. american tunes out the WACKO ENVIROMENTALISTS and decides to stop being STUPID and drill.
3. Our enemies see that WE ARE SERIOUS about drilling and become afraid, VERY AFRAID.
4. Our enemies DROP the PRICE of OIL so that we...
WON'T DRILL!
5. The price of gas comes down- The ENVIRO WHACKOs declare victory (for ALL the WRONG reasons)- AND WE ARE ONCE AGAIN HELD HOSTAGE BY OUR ENEMIES.
I find YOUNG libtards really facinating.
IF all the Lib Fantasies REALLY DO come to pass in the years to come then America will come to resemble a cold war Russia- socialist country. Everyone WILL BE EQUAL ALLRIGHT. Equally Poor, equally lazy (nothing to work for), equally hopeless (because religion will be gone),and equally dependent on the nanny state.
I'll be gone by then- But is this what the YOUNG LIBTARDS really want for their children????? |
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... and tell'em the truth.
I'd do it, but every time I go over there it makes me throw-up in my mouth.
I cannot stomach the ignorance of the libtards. |
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The Defeatocons absolutely want the GOP and McCain to lose, but that means Obama winning and Obama is starting to stumble.
Where is Hillary to save the Defeatocons from Victory?
McCain may be starting to become the candidate of change on ANWR: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/ 000/015/427xjuoj.asp A flip flop most of us would welcome.
As for the Defeatocons bug-a-boo (other than immigration) Cap and Trade--I doubt McCain is going to adopt any policy which drives up the prices of gasoline $2 a gallon. Sorry guys, it isn't going to happen. |
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So you guys don't like those fat congressional salaries or cushy gummint jobs? Michele Bachmann had never had anything BUT a government job. She was a tax collector for the IRS, she was a state senator, now a congresswoman. Nonstop government paychecks and pensions. And she still complains about the workload imposed on her by that mean Nancy Pelosi. What a fraud. |
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9 most popular cable TV programs / John Edwards pick-up lines
“If what’s happening in my pants is any indication, the movement to shrink torts is dead in the water.”
“You and me, we’re meant to be together. And I know this because the spirit of a bunch of dead babies told me so.”
“The Closer”
“The Sopranos”
“I object! – to just how beautiful you are. On the grounds that it’s just not fair to all the other women in the world.”
(Tie) “Monk” / “You know, as an officer of the court, I’m allowed to carry handcuffs. So tell me: have you been a naughty little whore?”
“So, what do you think? Up for a little ‘Brown sugar vs. Johnny’s board of education’…?”
“Curb Your Enthusiasm”
(Tie) “Deadwood” / “My wife is home, hooked up to a chemical drip. And that hurts me. As a man. So. You wanna, like, *&^%, or something…? — to help me relieve the pain and whatnot?”
http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=13155
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What we need from every GOP candidate, congressman, senator is SPINE:
A lot of spine:
PUTIN is drilling everywhere in a mere few months, pumping and cashing in, confiscating the pipelines: PUTIN will control the World's energy supply:
Obama, Pelosi, REID will destroy the USA in the first 100 days:
They will help PUTIN bring the USA to its darkest days in history without a nuke or firing a shot:
PUTIN gives global warming crap the finger: |
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PUTIN is drilling everywhere
pumping everywhere
cashing in big time
stealing the pipelines
ONLY TAKES PUTIN 4 months to drill and pump:::
HE WILL CONTROL THE WORLD
PUTIN WILL HELP OBAMA< PELOSI< REID destroy the USA in the first 100 days: |
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PUTIN is drilling and pumping and cashing in
OBAMA is preaching RATION THIS RATION THAT RATION THIS: get a bike to haul your 4 kids around:
Obama will be worse than Jimmy Carter:
PUTIN is wetting his pants with glee that the idiots in the USA will give him OBAMA::
Obama Pelosi REID will help him destory the USA in 100 days without firing one shot: |
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no thanks we are better off with congress on vacation,the most dangerous words in the english language are, im from the govt and im here to help |
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I prefer drilling in ANWR first and OCS as a last resort. The reasons should be obvious to anyone with half a lick of common sense. |
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1. $700 billion a year is sent overseas for oil. Drilling for domestic oil will greatly reduce that.
2. Saving the planet. At present, the most backward state owned oil companies are drilling for oil in very environmentally unsound ways. US extraction technology is the cleanest on the planet.
3. Prices. World prices will come down as soon as the oil fields are opened because there will be much less speculation on unsafe supplies. Think Nigerian pipeline being bombed by rebels.
4. Increased tax revenue for your pet projects.
Domestic production will keep the sales taxes, federal excise taxes, income taxes and social security taxes in the US and no contractor will be operating in a tax free overseas environment. (Used to work as one, myself.)
5. Employment opportunities. New jobs would be created, domestically. This also generates more revenue. See point 4, above.
Now, on to other considerations. Should we explore new technologies? Absolutely, and develop them as fast as we can.
Should we use alternatives and conserve more now? Absolutely.
Should we demand higher mpg on purely internal combustion engine autos, now? No, because with current technology, the only way to improve mpg is to lighten the load, thereby making cars more dangerous like the last time this was tried. BTW, that is what ushered in the SUV's with higher survivability.
Ethanol should be consigned to the dustbin of history where it belongs because it is not efficient using corn.
Four hundred pounds of corn can feed one human being for a year, although not very nutritionally.
Four hundred pounds of corn would be added to the feed to take one steer to market.
Four hundred pounds of corn can feed four pigs to market weight.
Four hundred pounds of corn can feed one hundred chickens to market weight.
Four hundred pounds of corn produces 25 gallons of ethanol.
All of this is a matter of public record.
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Thanks for the figures. Do you have links handy for those stats? I'd like to show people how ethanol is causing a lot of our food prices to increase and is also part of the worldwide food protests.
Assuming your figures are correct and using the figures from http://zfacts.com/p/349.html that state that 3.91 billion gallons of ethanol were produced in 2005 (surely more today), producing ethanol has caused:
156,400,000 people to go hungry for a year if all they ate was corn.
156,400,000 steers failed to go to market.
625,600,000 pigs failed to go to market.
15,640,000,000 chickens failed to go to market.
Correct my math if I'm wrong....it's late for me. |
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One could invent a car that ran on air and it wouldn't matter to the millions of us that are spending $300 - $400 dollars a month on fuel to drive to work.
We can't afford to replace what we are driving now.
Until then, drill here and drill now!
If you don't understand that, then you are not ignorant, you are just an idiot. |
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Definition:
1: the underlying foundation or basic framework (as of a system or organization)
If you drive from anywhere to anywhere in America you will most likely run across a thing called a "gas station", which shows that we have
an infrastucture in place, for oil, to be used RIGHT NOW. Where is the nationwide SOLAR or WIND POWERGRID? How many current power stations would need to be upgraded beyond thier present capacity to support millions of electric cars, that we'd plug in overnight in our garages.
I'm all for private industry & our gov doing research and development into all the different "eco friendly" possibilities for the future. And I'm all for step-by-step changes in how things operate that ALL Americans can actually afford in thier lives. But the bottom line is: creating intirely new infrastructure(s) for alternative energy that's usable by all (or most) Americans will take FAR longer than increasing the capability of our present infrastructure(oil). I'm weary of hearing the stupid rationalle that we wont see the results of drilling today for another 5 years. How long will it take to create a new and completely different infrastructure coast-to-coast? 20, 40, 60 years?
Oil? YES!
Nuclear? YES!
Coal? YES!
Wind? YES!
Solar? YES!
Hydro? Yes!
Anything that produces more than it consumes?
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"One could invent a car that ran on air and it wouldn't matter to the millions of us that are spending $300 - $400 dollars a month on fuel to drive to work. We can't afford to replace what we are driving now."
Cars wear out; it's an obvious truism that almost half of the cars on the road today are more than half-way through their operational life.
A great many people are going to buy new cars in the immediate future; if they all buy air-cars, the demand for gasoline will IMMEDIATELY go down and it will become cheaper, saving YOU money. This will continue until all the gas-cars have been replaced by air-cars -- including yours -- and we can use the remaining petroleum for things like cosmetics. |
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"How many current power stations would need to be upgraded beyond thier present capacity to support millions of electric cars, that we'd plug in overnight in our garages."
None. The power grid has vastly more capacity than it needs most of the time. By coincidence, the few times that it nears that full capacity are sunny days in the summer, when photovoltaics are at their best, so a few square meters of solar cells on most people's and business's roofs could insure that the demand never exceeds the grid's capacity.
"Where is the nationwide SOLAR or WIND POWERGRID?"
It's those long, thin things running from pole to pole along the roads. Did you think that wind energy is distributed by pipes with air blowing through them, or solar by fiber optics? |
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You wrote, "Brickhouse, you waiting for a GOP landslide? Let me know how that works out for you in November!"
Wouldn't miss it for the world. I'll be here high-fiving all over the place. Energy isn't a GOP issue; energy is an issue for ALL Americans. Americans are seeing clearly WHO IS hindering us, and they're supporting the political leaders who are following the will of the American people. That just happens to be the GOP. The Democrats should be working "across the isle" to give us what we demand: drilling & refining NOW. The Democrats chose the wrong issue to be fighting against, and it's going to resonate in November. Our memory isn't that short.
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I always wondered what those things were going from pole to pole!
I'm curious though; how will this vast capacity handle not just electric cars for the whole country, but The Big Rig's hauling freight, Jets, Small Planes, Ships, Ski boats, Motorcycles, Tractors, ATV's, Tanks, Etc, etc?
Also, my area of the country has clouds & rain for most of the year, as well as this wonderful enviro crowd that prevents us from implementing windmills (because they mess up the scenery).
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"I'm curious though; how will this vast capacity handle not just electric cars for the whole country, but The Big Rig's hauling freight, Jets, Small Planes, Ships, Ski boats, Motorcycles, Tractors, ATV's, Tanks, Etc, etc?"
The immediate answer is that it frees up oil and gasoline for them to use.
In the longer run, we can put the trailers from those Big Rigs on railroad flatcars and haul them with electric engines. Jets and ships are a problem, but there are actually plug-in electric light planes for sale, and at attractive prices. There's also a 400 ft container sailboat being tested. Gas motorcycles can be replaced by electric scooters, of course.
"Will the sunny windy people give us a decent rate for thier energy?"
Probably. Are the sandy oily people in the Mideast giving you a decent rate? |
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I am very tired of the political games instead of responsible performance and making the lawmakers responsible and accountable for what they do. Pelosi should be charged and convicted of violating her oath of office.
It is time that all issues stand by themselves and are voted on so we can clearly understand who is supporting this country and those who are stealing the wealth from the working people.
This years Presidential candidates are very disappointing! It is a shame that we do not have a conservative canditate. I have a lot of conservative friends and associates who may not vote for the first time in their lives even understanding that they may loose the judicial appointmnent by a so-called Republican.
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Listen to Michele days after she took office:
Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., offered the same quip. "We're stretching three-day weeks into five days," she said. "I think the American people would be outraged if they knew we were flying in here to wish people happy birthday. It takes us away from valuable work in the district," she said Monday, after voting to wish two folks a happy birthday.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0207/2652.html
And now she's telling Democrats to get to work? What a fraud. |
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But you should be screaming from the roof tops and making a bigger stink in the news. Loud and a pain in the butt is what gets headlines. In other words act liberals when they don't get their way,without sucking your thumbs. |
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"Are the sandy oily people in the Mideast giving you a decent rate?"
Nope.
That's why we should drill here. |
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